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posted by Nimue October 26th 2011

Watching again the video:

First the layout of the surveillance cameras:

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In the footage we see cameras 6 and 1

From camera 6:

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I don't know how is the weather at night during summer time at LA, but this security guy with this winter coat seems overdressed by the time of the year.

From camera 1:

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I don't know which security guard is this one but is Alberto at the back of this screenshot?

It is also interesting that the car that looks like Murray's car does not stop by the gate.

To add more to this camera 2 was inoperative and the footage of this camera would be for another entrance. This one:

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So this entrance was completely unguarded, no security, no footage. Anyone could come and go.
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posted by Nimue October 27th 2011

I was looking to the surveilance video again and something came to my mind. When we have serveral surveillance cameras they are identified, so we can know from where the footage came from. So, I decide to look for the camera identification.

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I marked the only thing in this picture that could be the identification of the camera. In this case would be:

10 IP3

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This one would be the camera:

15 IP3

The IP3 could mean the address where the camera is, in this case the house at Carolwood dr.

But 10 and 15 would be the number of the cameras.

If it is similar of what is used here it would mean that at least 15 cameras were installed at the same address.


But they said there was only 6 cameras, I think there were a lot more cameras there.


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posted by The Fairy October 28th 2011

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I don't know how is the weather at night during summer time at LA, but this security guy with this winter coat seems overdressed by the time of the year.
I had the same thought. He is way too overdressed.. And if you look at his pants it looks like pyjama pants. Imagine a person asleep or resting and then he gets up because someone comes to the house. He is wearing PJs and throws on a long overcoat to look representable. It does not look like a security guard, in his normal suit coming out to greet people. Which also takes me to another question: Who was at the house while Michael and his security guards were at the Staples Center?

Faheem, Alberto Alvarez and Michael Amir Williams were at the Staples Center. Michael was presumeably also at the Staples Center.

The kids would have been at the house. Was the nurse with them in the evening? Was there outdoor and indoor security at the house? Who opened the gates and who are the people running around as the cars arrive?

Actually we have no idea who were in the cars, who were outside and what day the footage is from. As Supall was asked: "Does the date show the date the footage was recorded?" and he replied "No it shows the date PRESET on the machine".. could have been any day. Michael could even be sitting inside the house watching these cars arriving. All needed was these cars to be outside the gates and then enter the gates and with the right time on the machine, it looks like they arrived from the Staples Center. Would also be interesting to know if the Staples Center have footage of Michael leaving that night....

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But they said there was only 6 cameras, I think there were a lot more cameras there.
Good thinking, Nimue... I dont remember if Alex Supall explains the ID number of the camera; I will have to watch again..

I uploaded the part with the surveillance footage from the orginal vid... might be easier to view like this


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